Interview with the Most Recruited Football Coach in Texas Jordan Johnson

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Wearing, like, crystals around their necks? Speaker 4 Since you really find this information? Speaker 1 Hundred percent of my information. Speaker 4 Chelsea. Speaker 5 Tick tock. Speaker 1 Thank you. Tick tock. And it's. It's the truth. You can watch. You can, like, befriend a crow. Everybody out there that's listening to me that knows what I'm saying. They're in their car going. Speaker 4 Yeah, that's right. Speaker 2 So how many people do you think that it's about? Speaker 4 Like, I mean, during a couple, I'm referring ducks and ducks. They come up. Speaker 1 But they don't bring you anything. They want things in your yard, but they don't bring. Speaker 5 You in your face. And those are not. Speaker 2 They just quickly get attached to you. You give them food and now they're attached. Speaker 4 But yeah. Speaker 2 You're saying crows bring you gifts. Speaker 1 That's where you get their friend. Supposedly they're a friend for your life. They'll follow. Speaker 4 You places. Oh, no. Okay. Looking up? I don't know where I'm going to see you. Speaker 1 You listen to this podcast and you can learn things that you never knew. Speaker 2 I'm a I'm a dog person. Speaker 4 Dog? Yes. Speaker 2 You can be friends to dogs. Speaker 1 Yes. Speaker 2 They're not going to they may not bring you a gift, but you do know that you're you're friends with them. You have a connection. Speaker 4 They will not bring you like a dead toad crow. Speaker 2 I don't know that they have the capacity to befriend you. Speaker 4 Jordan, look. Speaker 5 You're questioning something. You know nothing about it. Speaker 4 Absolutely. Yes. Speaker 1 You don't have to believe me. I don't. Speaker 2 Reasoning right. Speaker 4 Now. I'm just using a reason. Speaker 1 Listen, you don't have to believe me, but you can look it up and you're going to come back to me and you're going to go, Holy cow, I know you're going to say those words. We can. Speaker 4 Only. Speaker 1 And we need to get into this. Welcome to Season two. Episode 13 of FISA is the podcast where Kelsey goes and Dana and that's me have the pleasure of interviewing. Interesting people and discussing anything and everything. Friends, what I see today, we have the big game, the one and only Jordan Johnson and that's awesome. Speaker 2 That's awesome. Speaker 1 No, but truly we do have one of the most sought after football coaches in the state of Texas. Speaker 2 Oh, come. Speaker 1 On. I don't know if you know that about your. Come on. Speaker 5 Is that true? That's true. It's the truth. Speaker 1 It's true. The new head football coach and athletic director of the Friends with Mustangs. Speaker 1 Hey, listen, I'm handling a lot of people today in this podcast, and I'll tell you a lot about it. But welcome. We're so glad you're here. Speaker 4 Thank you. Yes, thank. Speaker 2 You. Really excited to be here. Really excited. Speaker 1 We've been looking forward to this podcast. Our last podcast was with Alissa Goza. Yes, the woman behind the Wranglers. Speaker 4 The big. Speaker 1 Players, and she was super excited. Y'all went to Did your graduate together? Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 2 Yeah. Both class of oh nine. Speaker 1 Yeah. That's crazy. Is there anyone else oh nine in? Speaker 2 You know, I don't know. That's definitely worth me looking into. Yeah, I don't know if there's specific class of oh nine employees. Speaker 1 To a couple of, of just friends that are, you know, that live in friends where they get all graduated with that they're super excited about you being hired. Speaker 4 Yeah yeah that's awesome. Speaker 2 She's a stud. Speaker 1 She is. She's awesome. Speaker 2 Dancer. She was a stud. Now she's a stud leader, so. Speaker 1 Yeah. And it was her dream to come back and become the, you know, the director of the Wrangler. It's that that's something that she said she had always wanted to do. Did you have that kind of dream to come back to for Friendswood or not necessarily. Speaker 2 You know, no, not necessarily. Not because of any one reason, I guess I just thought as my coaching career kind of took off, I was open to a lot of places and possibilities and I just felt like that was going to give me the best chance to land something really, really good, just being open minded. Speaker 1 So and you have to be as a coach, right? You have to be willing to travel. Yeah. Did you want it? Were you willing to go outside of Texas or you wanted to stay in Texas? Speaker 2 No, I was going to stay inside Texas. Yeah, absolutely. It's it's all about Texas high school football. Speaker 5 That's what we like. Speaker 2 To think. Speaker 4 About. Yeah, that's right. Speaker 1 Yes, sir. And let's start off and just tell us a little bit about tell us a little bit about yourselves. Speaker 2 Okay. Well, I. You mean professionally. Personally. Speaker 1 I'm so glad you said I cannot stand that question because I'm like, well, 19 seven. Speaker 2 Because I can go two totally different directions. Speaker 4 Here. Speaker 1 So you just tell it, like for those listeners out there who really just don't know anything about you, just kind of give us a synopsis of kind of who you are and what makes. Jordan. Speaker 2 Jordan Yeah, so I am First off, I feel like I'm a very detail oriented person in that kind of goes, you know, back and forth between my personal and professional life. I think that relationships are really huge for me. That's why I got into coaching. I think just on a daily basis, that's kind of my gauge of how my day is going. Speaker 2 What kind of connections am I making, what kind of impact am I making Both professionally and personally. So, you know, relationships are huge and then, you know, time of day and giving people time, undivided, undivided attention. You know, I think that that's a love language a lot of people have is just undivided attention. So that's something that, you know, I feel like I'm growing in that area and I'm definitely trying to improve. Speaker 2 So just making people feel value is really big to me. And I think that if you can do that, you can definitely impact people. And that's kind of where I am right now. Speaker 1 Were you born with that? Like were you looking back as a child or was that important to you? And have you always had that desire to have connections? And, you know, people call themselves extroverts, introverts, like they really could go a long time without being around people. Yeah. When did you kind of know that just people feed you? Speaker 2 You know, I think if somebody asks me, are you an extrovert or introvert, it would be really hard for me to answer the question because I think depending on the situation I I'm in, yeah, that can be that can look very different for me. But to answer your question, I knew early on just how impactful some of the relationships I had with obviously family, but friends and, and families that that helped raise me and families that made an impact on my life. Speaker 2 And you know, and then coaches. And so I realized early on just how my life was being shaped by all these people. And so I guess, you know, early on, I knew that someway, somehow I didn't know exactly what I would do when I got older. But I did know that I wanted to have a platform where I could shape and mold people's lives in some way, shape or form. Speaker 2 So, you know, early on I definitely had that drive. Speaker 1 When do you think you realized I'm going to be a coach? Like, that's what I want to do. Speaker 2 And it was. So I graduated from LSU in 23rd December 2013. Speaker 1 Okay, let's back up a little bit. So you went to Friendswood High? Speaker 2 I graduated in oh nine from Friends with high school. Speaker 1 Okay. And then you went to where? Speaker 2 I went to Angelina College. Speaker 1 Okay. Speaker 2 And that's where I played baseball. Speaker 1 That's where you played baseball one year. Speaker 2 Okay. And from there, I walked on LSU and graduated from LSU in 2013. Speaker 1 So let's talk about that for a second. Okay. So where do you get the nerve kind of done? You're playing baseball in college. You did not play a lot of football. No. In high school because you were injured, but you obviously had this fire. Yeah. To play football. So you're like, I'm good enough to walk on at LSU. Speaker 1 Yes. Do you where does that come from? Like, that's really amazing to say. I could think your inner thoughts would almost be, I can't do that. Like I, I was injured in football. I didn't play it in high school. Now I've played baseball. Now I'm going to walk on it. LSU That's right. That's awesome. Tell us. Speaker 4 About I think. Speaker 2 The confidence behind it. You know, I think that goes back to the relationships that I had because luckily there were a lot of people in my life that were just breeding confidence in me and telling me, you know, my worth, telling me all the things I was capable of, even if I second guess myself at times. I had a lot of people to pick me up and again, that goes back to I want to be that for somebody else. Speaker 2 And so know, I guess it would sound arrogant, but never for a second did I second guess my ability to walk on at LSU. And I knew that if there was some type of disconnect, if I was lacking in some area, I knew that I would make up the gap and I would get it fixed and figure it out. Speaker 2 So taking the job, leaving baseball, which was extremely difficult for me because I do love that sport. You know, there wasn't a whole lot of reluctance to do that because I figured that it was going to work out for me and I had the confidence that that that was going to happen. Speaker 1 What does that look like? Do you do you, like, have to run like they call it a combine, right? Do you do that in college where you have to run a certain distance? Speaker 2 Yeah, Some places will hold an open tryout type of workout. I didn't do that when I was when I was coming in. I talked to the recruiting coordinator, Sam Nader, who had been there a really long time. And he essentially told me, look, we're going to let you join and, you know, there's going to be an evaluation period. Speaker 2 I didn't know exactly what that looked like. I just knew that once my foot was in the door, that I was going to make it impossible for them to. Speaker 4 Kick me out. Speaker 2 So, yeah, and that that could look a lot of different ways. It didn't mean that I was making an impact on a Saturday night on the field. For me, I was good making impact in any way I possibly could. And that's one thing that that I like to preach in my program to coaches and players. Not all impacts look the same, but they're all they're all important, they're all necessary. Speaker 2 And so when I went to LSU, I was thinking, how am I going to how am I going to impact the program? And it doesn't have to be on the field. It may be off the field. They may be running a scout team, it may be may look a lot of different ways, but I'm open to it. Speaker 1 But but you did have a pull like you knew that's what you wanted to do. Speaker 2 I did. And I did know that. Yes. And I missed football, too. That was part of it, too. That, you know, that was kind of the the driving force behind it is, at the end of the day, I missed competing. I'm playing football. So that was that was what motivated me to do it again. Speaker 1 Do you get to go back to LSU and go to any of those games? Speaker 2 No, hardly ever with or with my schedule. Speaker 4 Right. Speaker 2 And, you know, thankfully and very fortunately, I've played I've coached a lot of football the past nine years. And that is, you know, it's eight into a lot of college, a lot of college season. So those Saturdays have been have been booked up. You know, I went to meet my wife, Madeline, and my brother Jonathan. We went to it was this past season, it was Tennessee, LSU and he went to Tennessee. Speaker 2 So, yeah, it was it was a day game, you know, you want to catch a night game in Death Valley. That's really what you're looking for. This was a day game. So the next best thing, I got to see them play. So that was the last time that I went to a game. But before that it had been a while. Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 So you met your wife in your first year at college, right? Angelina So tell us about that A little bit. Like, I know this is a sports. Speaker 4 You. Speaker 5 Know, we're women. We want to get hurt. Speaker 4 So it has. Speaker 2 To do with sports, I guess. Speaker 1 Oh, really? So how did you meet? Speaker 2 So my freshman year playing baseball there is it's in Lufkin. Angelina is in Lufkin. And there were a lot of guys on the team that had graduated from Lufkin High School. So here we are, freshmen at Lufkin are at Angelina College playing baseball. And I had a lot of mutual friends with Madelyn. She was a senior at Lufkin High School at that time. Speaker 2 And so, you know, like we would go to the high school baseball game and hang out with some of their friends, some some seniors from Lufkin High School would come to some of the Angelina game. So you had crossover that way. And so we just kind of met through mutual friends. Speaker 1 Did you like it? Yeah. Did you, like see her out of the corner of your eyes? And he's like. Speaker 4 Oh. Speaker 2 I see. This is a major bragging point. Oh, she inquired about me. Speaker 1 She saw. Speaker 4 You. She's saw. Speaker 2 Me. So she asked one of her friends who I was. And then that's kind of how it how it happened. Speaker 4 Yeah. So. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2 So she she asked about. Speaker 4 Me. Speaker 2 And then, of course, like, I initiated that, you know, I initiated it so. Speaker 1 Well, we've heard so many great things about Madeline. I've actually had. She's great, you know, to meet her, but don't really know her yet. So look forward to getting to know her a little bit better. And I can't imagine, you know, maybe she needs to be on the podcast and kind of talk. Speaker 4 She would have fun. Speaker 1 I can't imagine she lives like being a wife of a, you know, a coach in general, but a head football coach and an athletic director. Yeah. So she has a lot, you know, in store for her. But it's going to be fine. Speaker 2 It's going to be really fun. It will be. And she's great. Speaker 1 And so she you're in the middle of selling the house and buying a house. Speaker 2 So selling and buying. Speaker 4 Good. Speaker 1 That's so great. So she she should be here soon. Speaker 2 Soon. Yep. So she is getting everything or anything. Denton right now on her own. She's up in Denton, you know, closing on the house up there, getting it sold and then moving down here from there. Speaker 1 So you coach didn't Guyer four right In years. Three years. Speaker 4 Okay. Speaker 1 Yeah. My son was telling me all about that's a that's a big time football program, right? Speaker 2 Yeah. You had a good run in three years. Yeah. Speaker 4 Yeah. Awesome. Speaker 1 So it got me thinking when I knew that you were coming here, who was the youngest head football coach? Tell me how old your. Speaker 2 30. Speaker 1 Two. 32. Who is the youngest head football coach in Texas? And in 2019, some stats that I came across. Guess how old the youngest football coach was in 2019. It was hired from Crawley? No. Crowle High School. High school. It was his alma mater, 23 year old, 23 now. And it crazy. Wow. 23 years old. Head football coach. Speaker 1 That's a lot I know. Speaker 5 Well, like a like a one day or whatever. Speaker 1 Mean so yeah. Speaker 5 You know private Christian school. Speaker 1 Yes but 23. Wow. I was kind of shocked. Shocked by that. Speaker 2 Yeah, that's quick. Speaker 1 But do you like do you like at your age who wake up in the morning and go, I'm young. Speaker 4 Not a. Speaker 1 Head football coach. Speaker 4 At all? No, no. Speaker 2 I wake up in the morning and I think I need to be a leader today. I do not think about my age at all. I just, you know, the heaviest weight on my shoulders is and I've told I've told people this not to discount what it means to be a head football coach at all, because trust me, I definitely feel the weight of that. Speaker 2 But the athletic director part of it and the responsibility you have to shape and mold every single person and every single program, you know, that part carries a lot of weight and as it should. So when I wake up in the morning, that's that the first thing I think about. That's the first thing I consider. Speaker 5 MM So I would say like there may be people who are like who are taken aback a little bit by you being younger. So how would you, how would you address that? Speaker 2 And age is relative. You know what, like I guess I would say a young verse type of experience or experience to that point, not to say that it's a person that has just been exclusive, fully successful, because there's, you know, failure is a is a really great experience, too. So I think I've had a little bit of a unique experience in my nine years coaching because I've experienced both sides of that. Speaker 2 And fortunately, a lot of seasons have ended up, you know, playing on Thanksgiving and past Thanksgiving. That's happened a lot for me in my career. But at the same time, like I've had a couple of seasons where I've lost six ball games and and then the people that you work with. So, you know, talking about those relationships earlier, like what type of guys have you worked with? Speaker 2 Well, I'll give a shout out to the staff at Rockwall, as in my opinion, being one of the best staffs in the state of Texas. As far as if you're going to land a first job and be surrounded by people that was essentially in my opinion, it was an incubator for creating an individual that was ready to lead a program. Speaker 2 And so that's that's been my experience. So 32 compared to my nine years of coaching and then the experience I've had, you know, I don't I wouldn't even say it's a wash. I would say that even at 32, the experience I have gives me a leg up over just about anybody. Speaker 1 I love it. Yeah, absolutely. What would you say to those who are like, how? Why would we hire a athletic director or a head football coach? Really, without any head football coaching experience? What what would be your kind of answer to that? Speaker 2 I would go back to what experience has that person had. And I granted, there's definitely merit to saying has person ever actually worn the hat or sat in the chair before and in two weeks, you know, I've experienced things that I haven't yet. But if the person's adaptable, if the person has had great experience, the adaptability piece is a big one. Speaker 2 Because like when I sit down in that chair and there were things starting to get thrown on my desk that I had never done before, an adaptation immediately started happening. So if the if the person can move a little bit, if they're not rigid, if they are confident in themselves, if they're not so prideful that they can ask for help, then I think that that person can can do a good job. Speaker 2 And I think that that's where I'm at right now. Speaker 1 Absolutely. Speaker 5 And I heard in your interview one of the things that was like the most love that you talked about was how you won other coaches over in the past. So you want to talk about that a little bit and give some insight. Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I'll I'll just I'll talk about Guyer because when I got there, they were coming off of a year where they played for a state championship and I had never played for a state championship. I had never coached for a state championship at that point. So going, moving into that spot as the offensive coordinator at Guyer, just to start, there were some guys, all those guys on that staff, some of them had been there since the school opened in 2005. Speaker 2 They had Alaskans on the wall in there that are good coaches and I just knew that it was really important moving in to that spot that they first understood that I valued them as people and as leaders and that I recognized, you know, their capabilities and all that they had accomplished. And that at the, you know, I hadn't gotten to that point yet. Speaker 2 So there was a little bit of humbleness that had to come with that leadership role. And that part was really important for me. And there were a couple of coaches that had players that had kids that were in our program. And, you know, I knew they have to trust me with their kid. So not only am I, am I a am I working with them, they have to trust me with their kid and their kids experience. Speaker 2 And, you know, the expectation there is that that you play, you make really long runs. So they're trusting me with their kids experience and they want their kid to make a long run. Well, we have to find a way to make that happen. So I think coming coming from a stance of humbleness and, you know, I think in a lot of ways, slow and steady wins the race and not trying to just overhaul everything all at once and giving credit where credit is due. Speaker 2 For me, that went a long way. And I think it turned out really, really good. Speaker 5 That's awesome. Yeah, we're big. I mean, we're huge advocates of there's so much beauty in humility. Absolutely. And there's so much leadership, too, in being able to resolve. That's awesome. Speaker 1 The moms out there want to know khakis and their. Speaker 4 Khakis in. Speaker 5 This. Speaker 4 Transition. The moms. Speaker 1 Out there want to know khakis or no khakis. Speaker 2 As far as sideline attire. Speaker 1 For a week. Please talk about this. Now, listen, some people may be going what? Nobody cares about that. People care about the way coaches dress. Speaker 2 I care. Speaker 1 It's important. Speaker 2 It's important to. Speaker 1 Me. You're a dapper fellow. You dress very well. Speaker 4 That's true. That's true. You dress. Speaker 1 Well. You can tell that that's important. So have you thought about your coaching attire and what the guys are going to wear on the sidelines? Speaker 2 Well, I tend to Not that I'm going to completely banish khakis. Number number one, here's the thing. The pants have to match. So say that like I like black and gray. Speaker 4 Right? Speaker 2 I think that that it's starting to have a black pair. You have a gray pair, but the gray pair has to match because it does. It's no good to go gray. And there be that thousand shades of gray on the sidelines. Speaker 4 Right. Speaker 2 And the same thing for khaki. There are a lot of shades of khaki, no khakis, definitely going to be on. Speaker 1 Thursday and no pleats. Speaker 4 Okay. This is going. Speaker 5 To be the the soundbite that we take to promote on sale. Speaker 4 So please, please, please, sir, against the law. Speaker 2 On the sideline. Speaker 1 You're going to outlaw pleats. Speaker 2 I'm not going to offer pleats. Speaker 4 Okay. Speaker 2 So I'm going to I'm going to give pants. Speaker 1 That's what you wanted to do. So you do. Speaker 2 None of them will be pleated. Speaker 4 So you give them uniforms? Speaker 2 I will give them coach's gear. Speaker 4 Yes. Okay. That's. That's good to know. Speaker 2 We will be outfitted. Speaker 4 Absolutely that out. Do you have do you have a. Speaker 1 Fashion designer coming out? Speaker 2 Okay, Yeah. The people we work with. So we're with game one. That's who's supplying. Speaker 4 Okay. Speaker 2 They're going to have to throw me something for giving them a plug. I guess. Speaker 4 I should. Speaker 2 So that's who we work with. And we're ordering things through them and they'll give me, they'll lay it out and say, This is what we have. I don't even know if they offer pleats now. So that's that's. Speaker 4 Really. Speaker 2 Not going to be in it. Surely that's not going be. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 1 She's out there still wearing pleats. I tell you that right now. Okay. I got the important question out of the way. So Colorado, I don't know if it's University of Colorado, new football coach Deion Sanders, maybe you've heard of him. One of the first things he did as the new coach is he called for a meeting with the band director. Speaker 4 Okay. Speaker 1 Because I don't know if you heard about this media. He wanted a theme song when he walked out on that field. He wanted that band to play his song. What do you think about that? Speaker 2 You know. Speaker 1 You met with that. Speaker 4 That's awesome for. Speaker 2 Him. I don't know that I have the leverage. I don't know. Speaker 1 What if you demanded it? Speaker 2 I think that'd be a really bad look to start. Speaker 5 What would your song be? Speaker 1 Yeah, What would your song be? Speaker 2 Okay, that's a great question. Oh, man. What would my song be? It would probably be just some instrumental, you know, rap that has a really good feel instrumental. So you don't have to worry about what the lyrics are. Yeah, that gets everybody going. You have to give me a second to think about it. Speaker 1 Okay. Speaker 5 Oh, Dana has one that she listens to in the mornings on the way to work together. If I'm done, I have. Speaker 4 A lot of hands on. Speaker 1 Which one are you going to? Which one? Speaker 4 Oh, Dad, that's a big. Speaker 1 I like that he doesn't get fired on that song. Speaker 2 Yeah, if your blood's not flowing with that. So drop. Speaker 1 That in. Imagine Dragons the thunder song. Speaker 5 Dun dun dun dun. But dun dun. Speaker 1 Oh, is that it? Speaker 4 Let's see. Speaker 1 Maybe you can find that song in glitter And you can love with the song You can even play it for me. So yeah, yeah. So I can do that. That's funny. Tell me one of your top two action items coming in. Speaker 2 Top two action items. One that our junior high. It looks like our high school. And you know, in order for us to have a bull's eye for for that junior high, we got to make the high school look a certain way. So it's kind of, you know, that's working in conjunction that's kind of happening at the same time right now. Speaker 2 And, you know, for me, I want if whatever an athlete junior high experience is, I want that to be applicable to what's going to happen their freshman year. And for that, you know, that transition to almost almost be seamless. And, you know, it's important for me that that coaches from both sides are on the other campuses to their high school coaches scene on the junior high campus, junior high coaches. Speaker 2 We had a couple of junior high coaches at 7 a.m. left this morning that were that were rolling. And it was really, really neat to see. And so for me, that's that's a big one. And then I would say just pride across the board for our program, for our athletics program, the pride that we have in Friendswood athletics, because, you know, it's a first off, it's a special place, it's special community. Speaker 2 And like or as it stands right now, it's a really special athletics program. But we there's another level there, another couple of levels that we can take that. So I would say pride in the program because of how we're doing things. Speaker 1 So do they have Matt Camp at junior high? I know Mac Camp is a big deal at the high school, so there's Matt Camp. Yeah. And it's do you go as young as Broncos or is it. Speaker 2 Yeah, Yeah. The cutoff is incoming seventh grade. That's where you start. Matt Camp. Gotcha. So we're going to have a junior high Mac That is all incoming junior high, seventh and eighth grade. They're going to come up to the high school and they'll get their work out. And then we have a high school Mac, which is for all the high school students, all the high school athletes. Speaker 2 And then we have a football Mac for all the high school football players. Speaker 5 Now that's something they have to sign up for. How do they? That is something that. Speaker 2 Course So you go you go online for that. So there's a there's a URL that's going to take you to every camp that we're offering right now. And you just go through and select everything that applies to you. So in that you'll see summer camps, you'll see your Mac camp, you'll see individual sports camps. You know, volleyball is doing their thing. Speaker 2 Football, whoever it is, has their youth camps or whoever it is. So it's all in one spot, though, is the cool part. Speaker 1 I don't think we push it out on social media recently. Speaker 5 It's on social media. So if you follow at Friends that I see and then it's on our athletics page. So my advice to Yukon Departments, Athletics, it should be right at the top. Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah. So take your top ten athletes and your line up on the field and you're going to race across the field and you're part of it. Speaker 4 Okay? Speaker 1 Oh, are you going to be any of those top ten players in a race? Speaker 2 Yeah, I'll beat a couple of them, will. But, you know, they're also 66 to 95. So, you know, like we got some guys that are that are some big kids. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 2 So I guess I would beat a couple of them. I'm not going to be any of our skill guys, though. I won't be any of the skill. We got some guys that can. Speaker 5 Run with that man. Speaker 4 Oh yeah. Skill. Yeah. You be surprised. Speaker 1 Yeah, because I could see where. Well, I don't know. I guess. I don't know. Speaker 2 My here is what I would be afraid of. I'll just tell you right now. My biggest fear in that scenario you just gave me is I am I do get out to a lead first five yards. I think I have everybody. The next five it's getting. Yeah, it's getting sticky. And then at any point in time, my hamstring strain could just snap. Speaker 2 Just snap off. Yeah. Speaker 5 So you just need to make it a five yard race. Speaker 4 I think it's just a five. Speaker 2 I think that's what we've boiled down to is we need to do a five yard start. You do. Speaker 1 This thing where you look down and you're running. Speaker 4 And you don't look up. And I, we all just, Yeah. Speaker 2 My chin down. Speaker 4 Just. Speaker 1 You were there. Did you hide out? Like, what if they actually did it and you walked out in one of those unitard? You know. Speaker 4 I see a super serious. Speaker 2 Race at that for me. Yeah, I'd be out of here. Speaker 4 You know, lately about it. I don't know. It could be. Our challenge is that I love that idea. Speaker 1 Yeah, you're. Speaker 4 Definitely think the idea you. Speaker 1 Definitely need to be and I think it needs to happen early in the fall. Doing a challenge accepted with you. Speaker 4 Say I. Speaker 1 Need to come up with a really fun. Speaker 5 We will for sure. It's not even an option. Yeah, and I already have something I'm going to be discussing with you after this podcast video. Yes, good idea. He has already have a video for the spring, so yes, we'll be discussing after it. No spoilers. Speaker 1 I don't know if you know if you'll be able to figure out who asked this question to one of your couple of your coaches. Oh, man. And who is the better athlete, Truman or Benny? Speaker 4 That's what I got. Speaker 2 Benny, man. I would have to go with cash. That's tough. Speaker 4 Is it? Truman asked that question to you, too, Kinsey. Speaker 2 He knows I'm going to swear. I would say, Truman, look here. I've seen. Speaker 4 So really Well. Speaker 2 Look, here's the thing. Like the way that I'm going to. This is such a cop out. He carried the ball so hard, he ran so hard, Truman, that he was tough. Speaker 4 And gritty. Speaker 2 And just nasty. And that won a lot. I remember watching him and Benny, like, you know, of course, Benny was the dude and he was a playmaker. You know, he was explosive, dynamic, all that good stuff. I think the grittiness for me with Truman is, is what has stood out even as a coach and as a teacher. You know, he's up for Teacher of the Year. Speaker 2 Yeah. Every year we land. Speaker 4 Him That's. Speaker 1 A dream of his to be teacher of the. Speaker 4 Year. Speaker 1 He got it like nine years and. Speaker 4 Now know we. Speaker 1 Paying people. Speaker 4 Off just to vote. Speaker 2 For him. He made it. We had teacher appreciation at softball. Oh, it was. It was Tuesday night. And I asked him if he was going to be appreciated, and he looked at me like I was crazy. Like, if that is that he. Speaker 4 Was right, of course. Right. And he was he's a favorite. He was going there. Speaker 1 So yeah, we love Cory. Oh, my gosh. Speaker 5 Truman Yeah, he's awesome. Speaker 1 Both the guy's name. Dave I'm sure you not seen there. Challenge accepted video. We've got to show you're. Speaker 5 Going to be. Speaker 2 Truman in. Speaker 5 Yeah but with Cory Benevides it is our favorite probably we've ever done. I would say it's up there. It's so good. Speaker 4 What was it? Wrangler? Speaker 5 It's a dance off between baseball and Wrangler. Speaker 1 Dance off the baseball field. Speaker 4 There you go. Speaker 1 And it was going to be I think you're going to laugh so hard you may fall on the ground. Speaker 5 We really didn't like the teaser one, too, from before. Alyssa choreographed dances for. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, we're going to show you. Yeah. It's a it's awesome. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Speaker 1 It was a lot of fun. So I think we've already talked about you're you know, you're going to be coaching with coaches that coached you. Mm hmm. What does that look like? Is that awkward for you? Is that something you look. It's exciting. Speaker 2 Yeah, it's very exciting. It hasn't been awkward for me at all. I don't know how it's felt for them, but it hasn't been awkward for me at all. I do think, like, it's such a testament to them that there's a guy coming back coaching in general, whether I was in no matter where I was. If you coach somebody that's now coaching, I think that you're doing something right. Speaker 2 So, you know, I think it's a huge feather in their cap. Speaker 1 Absolutely. You have some great guys that are just. Yes, just great guys. Yes. You know, and I think that's that's one of the things that I do love about just friends in general. I raise my my boys here and just so proud of the men that they were surrounded. Yes. You know, and I think they they are, too. Speaker 1 They would say the exact same thing. So that's awesome. Okay. So a parents call a meeting. They want to talk to you. They're upset. Accent mom comes in and she is the best employee in the family. Now she's old. All of a sudden it's like she's 87. Speaker 4 The grandma call. Speaker 1 Her grandma was in there. Speaker 4 Grandma from Pasadena. Sebastian is coming of age. Speaker 1 Maybe it's more like if she's the best athlete in the family. Awesome crowd. We need you playing. Speaker 4 Broncos just for. I know you can't stop Broncos. Well, somehow we got to meet. This is his sport. Speaker 1 He's just. We're so proud of him. We pay $26,000. Speaker 4 To that needs to be okay. He's standing on the sidelines as a freshman. What do you do? And, Billy, how you respond? Speaker 1 Because you're going to have that. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 1 You're ready. Yeah, you're going to have and I can speak to this after your answer. Speaker 4 You're going to have. Speaker 1 Parents that are like, You're ruining our son's chances. Speaker 4 Yeah. No. Yeah. Speaker 5 Yeah. So to address that, that parent that you just think. Speaker 4 Yeah, I. Speaker 2 I don't think that there's a magic wand for any of that first stuff. Like, I'm not, I'm not going to come up with an answer that's going to make everybody happy. I do not have an answer to make everybody happy, first off. So creating, creating a culture in your program that we were talking about value earlier and we are talking about me personally, my value at LSU and what that look like. Speaker 2 Value is not going to look the same for everybody. It can't. It never will. I do think that you're going to you will do people justice if you can create value all throughout your program and give kids multiple ways to impact your program on and off the field. But if you're talking about a kid impacting the program on the field, it doesn't have to be on game day. Speaker 2 You know, like the process of getting ready for a game. I'm it's cliche but it to me I have a process driven mindset and we will never win a game just on Thursday night we'll never win a game just on Friday night. There are a lot of things that have to happen before we ever win that game. Well, you can utilize every single kid in your program to get there. Speaker 2 You can. You can find ways to do that. And I think being intentional with that gives you probably the best opportunity to have everybody buy in. Now, that's not that's not going to happen. So I guess I'd address that specific situation. I would I would explain to them how their kid has found value, how we have found value in their kid in our program. Speaker 2 And if they just if they can't understand that or don't appreciate that, then that that part would be tough for me because, you know, they're not seeing how their kid's making an impact. You know, at that point it would be them not valuing the impact their kid is having on our program because there is an impact. It just doesn't look the same as everybody else's. Speaker 2 So that for me, that's huge. Speaker 5 Mm hmm. So you wouldn't just tell her to get lost? Speaker 2 No, I. Speaker 4 Don't think I know. Speaker 2 I don't think that's that's where. Speaker 5 I would hope so. In a country. Speaker 4 That used to say to stay in Rwanda, you could. Speaker 1 Say, But did you notice we don't wear khakis? Speaker 4 I guess they could say that there is not one complete. Speaker 2 On our sideline right now. Speaker 4 Let's do. Speaker 1 You know the change I'll make in this. Speaker 4 Town? Speaker 1 How do you feel about athletes getting paid? Speaker 2 I think it's that's tough on multiple ways. Like I think that it can you know, it's impacting kids in positive ways, obviously, because because they are they are getting paid. I think there are opportunities there to grow up really, and to do things the right way. It doesn't always happen that way. I think as much money as a kid is getting, they better have that much support. Speaker 2 So that that as positive an experience as it can be because it's not always going to be a positive experience. It's not always going to be a great outcome. And you know, you see that with guys that they play professional sport and they are getting paid really quickly and it doesn't always turn out positively. So, you know, I think with with pay, there needs to also be support. Speaker 2 Other than financial support, there has to be guidance some way somehow in multiple areas of their life. You know. Speaker 1 Yeah, such a young age, you know, you have so many kids that they're coming in now, they're getting paid. Think about all the other ramifications that go along with that that they've never had to. Yeah, that's the first time that they're just with that, much less just college and football and or whatever sport it is that they're, you know, playing what one's a game, offense or defense. Speaker 2 You know, complementary football wins a game because they're going to be games where we that we play that the offense is not clicking and the defense has to make up the gap. They're going to be games where the other team is scoring quickly and we have to answer. So, you know, it doesn't not both of them don't have to be on. Speaker 2 But one of them needs to be able to complement the other. Yeah, at all times. You really should be exposed. I'm an offensive guy, you know, that's that's my mind, you know, being an offensive coordinator. So I am an offensive guy. I will be involved with defense. Specifically. Just what do we look like structurally? What is our scheme? Speaker 2 What direction are we headed kind of in that area. But then the, you know, Stephen Griff being the defensive coordinator, he's going to set the tone, he's going to create the identity, He's going to be the leader of that unit. He's going to steer the ship over there and it's going to be his show. Speaker 1 Do the defensive guys get their own T separate from the offensive guys, get in their own t shirt? Speaker 2 Do you mean coaches? Are you talking about players? Speaker 1 Players? Speaker 2 So we're going to have yeah, players are going to get t shirts that identify what side of the ball they're on, but it's not going to be they're not going to just be handed out. Those can be things that you earn. So, you know, one thing that I haven't been able to talk to Coach Griffith about about is he needs to have a a nickname, a moniker for his defense. Speaker 2 They need to be called something. And I'm going to let him figure out what that is and if he brings, you know, the first name and maybe strike one second name, maybe strike two, if he strikes out, I'm picking the name. So I'm getting. Speaker 4 Him so the way he. Speaker 2 Can pick the name and we'll evaluate what they're doing. His offense. Offense will be quick. Six. Speaker 1 Quick, six, quick six. Okay. Yeah. And that's a is that going to be on a T-shirt? Speaker 2 It will be, yeah. Speaker 4 You'll you'll see. Speaker 5 I'm hearing the thunder in my head that's now listening to this. Speaker 2 You'll see t shirts with quick six on them. But that's going to be that's what we go by. Speaker 1 Is there a group of guys? I do know football, but I feel like in this question, I mean, I don't as well as I do. Is there a group of guys that don't fall on either side? No, That'd be players that are. Yeah. You have guys for defense. Speaker 2 Yeah. And then play. Speaker 4 What about. Speaker 2 Special teams? You have special teams. Speaker 1 Special teams. Speaker 2 Special teams has an identity to our special teams coordinator is Cory Truman. Speaker 4 Oh yeah. So yeah you know. Speaker 1 His name that. Speaker 4 Or is he. Speaker 2 Just name that. Yeah, he's just. Speaker 4 Name and he says. Speaker 2 Yeah, he is geeked up for it. So I'm. Speaker 4 Really excited. I'm sorry I yelled at him. Speaker 2 He's going to come up with a name for himself and he probably does. He'll be on the street. Three strikes system as well. Speaker 4 Waiting for this. Yeah. Speaker 2 For the end. Yeah. He has plenty of names. Speaker 4 For him. Speaker 1 If he's named that. And high school teacher of the year. Speaker 2 Oh my. Speaker 4 Gosh. Look, now I know nothing going to become a strike. Speaker 1 Oh, man, I can see. And I could just see his, like the way he walks down the hall. So was it different? Yeah, He got some. Speaker 4 Strikes, gotten his. Speaker 1 Hair, be. Speaker 2 Bang him on the podcast. His head may not fit in the door. Yeah. Speaker 1 So again because he's been on our podcast Yeah that was just all times right I just see him and we talk about him like everybody. Okay. Now did you. Speaker 2 Ask him or do he ask me all week, Can I be on Charles? But I did don't. Speaker 4 Have to, you know. Speaker 1 Tell you this right now. I asked some coaches for some questions that I could ask you. Truman and Benny replied with, We want to come on the podcast and do the one the individual things, try to take. Speaker 4 Over the podcast. I'm like. Speaker 1 Guys, I just need a question. You're not. Speaker 4 Sarcastic. It would have been fun. Speaker 1 So that's a great question because yes, of course it was a little bit of both. I'm sure like can I be on the podcast now? They want to run the podcast. That would be a great podcast. Speaker 4 Not yeah. Speaker 1 So do you believe it's coach's responsibility to motivate players? A coach says it's not my responsibility to motivate your son. Speaker 2 Yeah, I do. I think. I think it is coach's responsibility. I do think it's a shared responsibility though. Like, you know, you have to have some leadership on your team that it is being generated by your team. That's extremely important. But I do think that that starts with coaches and for me I'm a lot more motivate needed to do something if I see the connection in it. Speaker 2 And I aim to connect everything we do from the way that we eat after live to the way that we enter the weight room, I want that to be applicable to what's going to happen on a Thursday or Friday night. And I feel like if we can make that connection to set really high standards and expectations and enforce them, but do it in a way that it's going to, you know, it will all be worth it. Speaker 2 I think that you can you can motivate kids and I think that you can get by in. So yeah, it's coach responsibility, but you need leaders on your team that are going to back what you're saying to their peers and really, really bring it together. Speaker 1 Okay. So I asked Chet for some questions. Speaker 2 Oh, gosh. Speaker 4 Okay. Okay. Speaker 2 And I still haven't been on that. Like it's right now, it's like. Speaker 5 I get on it. Speaker 2 Like, it's like this mythological website. Speaker 1 So it was for us to until sat down and just started playing with it. Speaker 5 In fact, yeah, we've actually generated several of our social media captions here recently using chat and a few things for our newsletter. It's just playing around. Speaker 4 It's so. Speaker 5 It's amazing. Yeah, it's so cool. Speaker 2 So I picture there being a really smart person just on the other side of your screen that's just feeding your back stuff. It's just typing in real time. Speaker 4 It's just like. Speaker 2 Just feeding out. Speaker 4 Answers. That's like quarter court reporters. Speaker 2 I think that's what that picture. Speaker 1 Okay, This was the first question that they came up with. And by the way, their responses are as good or only as good as your research. Speaker 5 Okay. Speaker 1 Yeah. New question, right? Speaker 5 So that even adding like one word to your search can totally alter what it's going to come up with. Speaker 1 In your opinion, what is the most underrated in football and why do you think it's so important to a team's success? Speaker 2 I think the deep snapper is the most underrated because you don't you don't know about the deep snapper until that ball's sailing over that punter's head or whoever he's snapping into. So it is the deep snapper and you know, like inevitably that kid's going to snap the ball in some really high pressure situations. You're going to be punting from your own four yard line and they're having to do it. Speaker 2 And if they shoot it over the kids head, you know, that's a problem. So you don't know it's an issue until it's a massive issue and we're chasing the ball back by the line of scrimmage. Speaker 1 So I have a funny story to share. My son was the center and and my mother and I was a nervous wreck every snap. Speaker 4 Yeah, every. So you appreciate it. Speaker 1 Don't even realize how every snap has to get to every single snap. And I was like, every time. And I don't know how I got to where we would look at each other and like to play it terribly wrong. Mom and I were like, The center did his job. Speaker 2 Yeah. And then he and then. Speaker 4 You snap it. Speaker 2 You to block somebody too. Speaker 4 So. Speaker 2 You know, that person's touching the ball every play. Speaker 1 Yeah, man, that's a great like if you're trying to get into the pros. Oh yeah, that's a great position. You just work on it. Absolutely. Yes. You have to be a bigger fellow right in you. Speaker 2 And nowadays they want a guy. They want a guy that can run down the field too, and cover a little bit. So you have to be athletic. Speaker 5 A bigger fellow who. Speaker 4 Can move. Speaker 1 And he has to be kind of smart. Speaker 4 Right? Yeah. Yeah. Smart. Marshall. Martial arts always did. Speaker 1 He was so. Speaker 4 Smart. My baby. I'm so smart. Thank you. Thousand dollars. Speaker 1 Oh, we pay more than that. What is your go to offensive or defensive strategy in a high pressure game situation? And how do you adjust your game play plan to counter your opponent's strengths and success? Speaker 4 Okay. Speaker 2 That is GTP right there. Speaker 1 This is not Dana. This is. Speaker 4 They. Speaker 2 Was that like an essay question. Speaker 4 How you did. Speaker 1 I know. I'm just saying give me some great questions for a head football coach. Speaker 4 Okay. Speaker 2 So offensively, I think that you you have to have a core offense that you can always rely on when when things are going bad, when the game's not not going, how you thought it was going to go. You have to have a core identity as an offense that you can stop the bleeding and say we have a menu of plays that we run all the time and we know how to execute them. Speaker 2 At the very least, we can run these plays and execute them correctly. Same thing goes for defense. So a way to stop the bleeding, calm your players, get them back on track, and then and then go from there. Now the rest the question, I cannot. Speaker 4 Remember whether one classic. Speaker 1 Is a one question and then I don't even barely know what I'm asking you this instance. Speaker 4 Just move this course. Speaker 1 Okay. Last question from chat. When building a team, what do you value more raw talent or strong work ethic? Speaker 2 Strong work ethic. Oh, you weren't done. Go ahead. Speaker 1 How do you balance those two qualities when selecting players? Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 2 I would say strong work ethic is really big. I guess like again, I'm going to overanalyze your questions with this like capacity to me is really important. So if you're talking strong work ethic with no capacity for growth, work out. Yeah, I mean, yeah, so there has to be some capacity there. So give a team with some capacity that has strong work ethic and I'm and I'm good to go. Speaker 2 If you have a bunch of talented kids that at the end of the day are not going to buy into your vision, they're not going to work hard, then that's what you can have the NBA, a bunch of talented kids that that their talent will never come to fruition on the football field. So give me strong work ethic with some capacity and we'll make it happen. Speaker 1 True or false? I read a study that coaching football is 80% mental. Speaker 2 I don't I have no idea. I do know that when you are lacking sleep and you need to come with the same amount of energy you did before, I know that that is mental, but it gets physical pretty quickly. I mean, you are physically tired a lot of a lot of the time, but to overcome that physical exhaustion is a mental game. Speaker 2 So 80% it being mental, is that what you said? I would you know, I wouldn't say no. But you can't be like there are some some coaches that I feel like they they have a little bit more bounce if they got a little bit more physically fit. So 80% I would I guess I would go with that. I would go with that false. Speaker 2 Really? Speaker 1 I did not read that study. Speaker 2 Is it. Speaker 4 Easy? Is it. Speaker 2 Gp t or g. Speaker 4 T? Which one way is does the whole person start over? Because I'm about to go check that g p t This is not Chad. Speaker 1 This is not Chad. GP This is Caleb Presley. Speaker 4 Well, you okay, so, so. Speaker 5 Repeat, repeat with us and then answer. Speaker 1 This is one of my favorite all time questions and I'm really worked hard to not laugh. True or false? I read a study that coaching is 80% mental and then I said false. I did not read that study. Speaker 4 Okay. Speaker 2 That's awesome. Speaker 1 That's Caleb Presley. You need to look it up if you have it. He's he's interviewing Jordan Smith and he's like. Speaker 4 Oh, yes, I did that study. Speaker 1 I love it. I'm sorry. Speaker 4 I'm sorry. Speaker 1 Jordan He's trying to be serious and like, trying to answer some questions for piano. And I'm just took it a different direction. Speaker 5 I was over here trying to control my neck. Speaker 2 Looking. Well, no, I think people are going to get a kick out of that. Yeah, that's going to be. Speaker 5 Here's hoping you would get more of a kick out of that. Speaker 4 Yeah, I. Speaker 5 Thought it reaction was a little disappointing that was. Speaker 4 Hilarious. I, I thought it was the next question. Speaker 1 I'm not going to get any better. So. So let's talk about the dumbest things coaches say. Speaker 4 The. Speaker 1 Dumbest things coaches say, okay, okay, I'm going to run through a couple of them and then I want you to tell me if you ever. Speaker 4 Steal mine because I have one. You do? Yes. Okay. Speaker 1 This is what drives me crazy when they go, Oh, what are we. Speaker 4 Doing? Speaker 2 Okay, that's a good one. Speaker 4 Right? I don't do that. Speaker 1 I don't know who that helps or. Okay, here's another one. Speaker 4 What was that? Speaker 2 Yeah, let's give him. Speaker 4 Was that a pass? Speaker 1 Do you say any of these sayings like. Speaker 4 No, guys, we all do it in there. Speaker 2 But I have a really, really popular one. Speaker 1 Okay, What is it? Speaker 2 Be an athlete? Speaker 4 Like, are. Speaker 1 You saying like, man. Speaker 2 Up? No, like a kid. A kid is doing something and there's a coach yelling at him. Be an athlete. Just be an athlete. I'm like, Well, I think that's what they're attempting to do. Well, that's like, that's the. Speaker 4 Goal, right? Speaker 2 They are technically an athlete already. Yeah, they're a student athlete already. Speaker 1 They're playing in front of you. Speaker 2 I would rather you instead of being an athlete, I would rather you explain exactly what you're looking for. Like, if you. Speaker 4 Want to coach, just coach. Speaker 2 You want them like they're doing a clean or something and you want them to completely get extended. Instead of saying be an athlete, tell them to get triple extension. Tell them how to be an athlete. Yes. Don't tell them to be an athlete. Speaker 4 Yes. Coach What? Coach? Coach, What? Don't you say things like, what are you doing out there? What was that? Speaker 1 Was that because in general, don't you think and you should know after you've worked so long with your kids, they're really trying. Oh, yeah. Listen, they do some dumb things out on the court or the field. I get it right, But it's like if you're going to say something or yell something, make it worse. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 1 Where it's going to change their behavior. Speaker 2 I'm. Speaker 1 We're on the same page. Speaker 2 We're on the same page. We're on the same page. Speaker 1 Do you think I could ever stand out there, like with a yellow hat and hold up the. Speaker 4 You could. Speaker 1 Would you hire a female coach? Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 2 Oh, hire a female coach. Speaker 1 Absolutely. There are female football coaches in high school. Speaker 2 Yeah, I would imagine. I mean, their female coaches all the way up. Now I know there's. Speaker 1 I mean. Speaker 4 Football. Speaker 2 Yeah, there's a. Speaker 1 I know there. Speaker 4 Is. I realize that. Yeah. I assume we're speaking in terms of like that was okay, but like. Speaker 2 Just so you know, our female coaches are. Speaker 1 Yes, I know. Speaker 2 There's there are a couple of NFL coaches that are. Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. So that's. Speaker 1 True. Not many, but there are some. I think their dads were big. Speaker 2 Just not as many as men. Speaker 4 Good point. That's right. Yes. But there are more. Speaker 1 You coaches are important. Yeah, coaches are so important. I mean, I, I just want coaches to know and I think coaches believe that, which is why they get into coaching. They coaching. They truly have a heart for kids and for athletes and but the role of a coach can make and break a kid. I mean, that's a little hard to say. Speaker 1 And that's not maybe fair to say to a coach, but it's so important. And kids want to impress that coach and work hard for that coach. And just words can like. Speaker 5 Oh, I saw video the other day. It was like a girl. It was a volleyball player. She played in college and it was like showing pictures where she's like happy, loving the game and it would like go through different things, like where she loved it to hated it. And it was like every time we'd go, like the picture would go black and white whenever. Speaker 5 And it was talking about how all it took was one person to ruin her love for the game. Yeah, in the same breath. There's also that power. I think there to be the opposite. Speaker 1 Yeah. And I want to coach up athletes as well. You know, you are also responsible for who you are as an athlete and you have you cannot you know, coaches are human too, and they say dumb things and they say things that they regret saying. And so there's there's you know, I hope we all grew our kids up to know that sports are important. Speaker 1 Yeah, but they're not the most important thing in the world. Yeah. So so I think this is the time where we get into a couple of random questions. Having nothing to do with football. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 1 And then we'll wrap things up. Speaker 2 It sounds good. Speaker 1 So what is your favorite song on your playlist to fire you up? Speaker 2 That is. Speaker 1 It's a little different than the theme song that we were talking. Speaker 2 About in my weird that I don't have a go to and I don't think people are going to So I am. Speaker 1 Workout playlist. Speaker 2 Now. So when I listen music, I will get on kicks, I will listen to the same artist for a month and then I won't listen to that artist for a month and then I'll be on to somebody else. It may be like a like three songs I listen to. Speaker 1 Put them on a report. Speaker 2 Yeah, some. Yeah. Like there there have been times where I listen to the same three songs for like a week. Speaker 1 Kelsey She listens to the same song on a loop. Speaker 4 Yeah, it's so annoying until. Speaker 2 Until, like, you tell, like, that feeling will pass, and then I'll move on to another song. Speaker 4 Okay, So I. Speaker 5 Do that, too. And I never really thought, like, a whole lot about it until I was working and then I was replaying a song that I thought it was pretty quiet. And she also cries. Speaker 4 It's like, Are you video? Speaker 1 It's like, Why is it Tom playing? Speaker 4 Yeah, Human. Yeah. And ever since that day I went that. But now you're self-conscious about it. Speaker 2 Yeah. Speaker 1 So I've never in my life done that or even heard of that. Speaker 4 You didn't tell me. I mean, tell them what you told me. Speaker 5 That you saw the anxiety. Speaker 1 Oh, yeah? Speaker 4 Where are you? My anxiety? I you. Speaker 1 Shoot it. Speaker 2 What do you mean? Speaker 4 Like your. Speaker 1 Stress dream? What? You're stressed. Speaker 2 Out? Yeah, I can get stressed out. Yeah, I would say high anxiety about different things. Speaker 4 Yeah, so am I. Speaker 5 So apparently that's like, a total thing that people with anxiety do because it makes you comfortable that you know what's coming next. Speaker 1 Coming next. Speaker 4 I really. That means so much. Gosh, this is deep. Yeah. Speaker 2 Man. Speaker 1 You've learned that and about. Speaker 4 GROSS Yeah. Speaker 2 And I don't know which one is more valuable. Speaker 4 There a really cool. GROSS For sure. Yeah. You can make a friend. Speaker 1 So you don't really. Okay, but what song are you listening to right now on your loop? Oh, Oh, Um. Speaker 2 Not not to get, like, pumped up or anything, but just like, there's an artist named Rob Wave. I don't know if you've ever listened to him before, so it's a kind of a mix between rap and R&B. Kind of has like a slower feel. But I've been listening to a couple of his albums on repeat for a while now, and, you know, some of the songs, they have some positive stuff in it and like you have to do a lot of sorting nowadays, like to find, you know, I say I want to listen to rap and R&B. Speaker 2 Like how can I find a positive message if somebody like, How can I play this for kids? Or if a kid asked me, What are you listening to rap? Yeah, what can I listen to that when I tell. Speaker 4 Him that. Speaker 2 It's it's something good to give to, you know. And there are a couple of his songs that I think meet that Mark. So say all that to say. I'm with you, Kelsey. I've been listening to a couple of albums for. Speaker 4 A long time. I'm to. Speaker 1 On the. Speaker 5 Roadways. Oh, so now you're okay? Speaker 2 Well, probably because I played it next to her. Speaker 4 Yeah. All bets are. Speaker 1 Off, for goodness sake. Speaker 5 Slow enough and like, so you just, like, called me out. Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, that. Oh, she was. I'm not happy. Speaker 1 Right away, so that's good. That's, that's okay. Try to listen to that and see. Speaker 5 There's a lot of sponsorship opportunities in this podcast I think. Speaker 4 Yeah. Of our team. Listen to a lot of these. Speaker 1 Sports Center and Barstool sports. Speaker 2 They could take. Yeah. Speaker 1 Taking this podcast and just racing. Speaker 4 It I could see that you do I mean with the. Speaker 2 Jokes you told it earlier. Speaker 1 True or. Speaker 4 False he's showing off so I know that is how well it landed. Speaker 1 Caleb Pressley Caleb Pressley may reach out. I'll visit way. He does. That's fine. Caleb, give me a call. Speaker 4 Never do that again. Speaker 1 It went exactly the way I knew it was going to go. Speaker 5 She did. She actually said this. I knew. Speaker 1 It was going to fall flat on its face and it. Speaker 4 Did. Yeah, but. Speaker 1 I tried it. Speaker 4 That's weird. Speaker 5 I don't think weird sometimes. Speaker 2 Like a joke. It if it's not funny and you just move past and it stays not funny, but if it's not funny and you talk about the the non landing of it. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 1 Kind of like it's like now you see what she was trying to do. Speaker 5 You just say it wasn't funny. Speaker 4 Yeah. She'll do anything funny. Speaker 1 I'm going to send you the clip. I'm going to send you the clip with Caleb Parsley. Enjoy the speech. Speaker 4 And you'll see someone execute. Speaker 1 You'll see much about the way it should have been executed. Speaker 2 Jordan Spears response to it. Speaker 1 He goes, What? Speaker 4 So he is the same thing. It was the same deal. Okay. And then. Speaker 1 They both started giggling and then. Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 1 What do you do for fun? Speaker 2 Me and my wife, Madeline. We travel as much as we possibly can. We love to travel, whether it's domestic, it's not. We love to travel is. Speaker 1 Your number one place. Speaker 2 So I kind of have to. I love visiting Boston. Speaker 4 Oh, if I'm. Speaker 2 If I'm. If you're talking if you want to go right to a city and walk around and I love Boston, they have a really good Italian food, like they have an Italian area of Boston that's awesome. Yep. So I'll do love Boston. All the history. There's a ton to do there if you're talking about a place. More relaxing, but still plenty to do. Speaker 2 Sonoma, California. I love Sonoma, California. Speaker 4 All right. Speaker 2 Yeah. And it's you know, you're, I guess, 35 minutes from San Francisco. So if you do need the city feel you can go to San Francisco. You get back to Sonoma. Maybe it's a little more than 35 minutes, but I do love Sonoma. Speaker 1 Okay, awesome. What makes you giggle? Speaker 2 Hmm. I feel like over time my humor is changed and I can't really put my finger on it. I think it's more dry humor. I, I appreciate, like, slapstick comedy. I love the office, the show, the. All right. I love that show. But I wouldn't say universally that that's my humor necessarily. What makes me giggle. I just I don't I you know, I think it's funny when people don't know they're being funny, first off, like when somebody doesn't know something's funny and they're just going that that gets me. Speaker 5 So tell them what you how you look at people like. Speaker 1 And so in general, I, I like, I just like people in general. Like there are, you know, I don't know if you have people like this, but there are some people that people just don't like. Speaker 4 I don't I don't not like people. Speaker 1 I see them as Saturday Night Live characters. Speaker 4 That's awesome. Speaker 1 I mean, aren't we all like, you take care of people. Speaker 4 And. Speaker 1 You know, make them big? Speaker 4 That could. Speaker 2 Definitely see, that's how. Speaker 1 I like that's I like everyone. Speaker 5 It's so good. Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it is. It works. It's a good way to look at people. Speaker 5 Especially who we're all talking. Speaker 2 Is that quirky? I'm going to use that. Speaker 4 We're all quirky for sure. Speaker 2 Nobody is normal. There is no. Speaker 4 Normal. There is no normal. Yeah. There's nothing to even. Speaker 1 Act like there is a normal. Oh, yeah. You start to go way, maybe. Yeah, I am as weird as I think this other person is. Speaker 4 But if. Speaker 2 You're constantly saying how normal you are and yeah, something serious. Speaker 1 Like, more than likely, that's. Speaker 4 Boring if there's a common sense. Yeah. Hate it in your office. Speaker 1 See it. I will just break out in dance and I don't know. She's from Alvin and from Pasadena. Speaker 4 That's. Speaker 5 We make jokes about her, like. Speaker 1 Yeah, like I get off the thing. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 5 We just start, like, joking around. Like, that's hilarious. Trying to do that one time in our admin building meeting. Speaker 4 And. Speaker 2 It didn't land. Oh, no, it was just y'all. Speaker 4 Yeah, she's a connection y'all have. Yeah, it is. We were like, live in Pasadena. And I go right. Speaker 5 Oh, my gosh, let's. Okay, this is totally off. But Alvin, Texas got a shout out yesterday. I was listening to a murder podcast and the guy was born in Austin. He was a murderer. Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You don't hear about that living like that. I know you like. Speaker 5 Yeah. And then he went on to kill two people. Was like. Speaker 4 Represent representative. Speaker 1 Hometown. Speaker 4 Yeah. Out in Texas where I grew up. Speaker 2 So you went to Alvin High School? Speaker 5 I did. I did, yes. I graduated in 2015. From there? Yeah. Home of the Yellow Jackets. Yeah. And Nolan Ryan. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 2 I've been to Yellow Jacket before, so. I know. Speaker 4 I know. Speaker 5 Who's your target? Speaker 4 Rockwall. Oh, okay. Speaker 2 Orange. Speaker 5 Okay. Because. Speaker 2 Because all yellow jackets are shades of orange, apparently. Speaker 5 Look, this this really frustrates this is very upsetting to Shaun. He, he brings it up more than I can understand why. But he's like, it does not make sense that y'all are the yellow jackets in our burnt orange. Why weren't y'all. Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, it's it's an argument that I've heard often because I wasn't. But we were at Rockwall. It's like a, like a construction. Speaker 4 On. Speaker 5 OKC, which is not burnt orange. Orange color. Speaker 2 Or burnt orange is closer. Speaker 5 To. Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, definitely it's an orange yellow jacket. Speaker 4 So what I saw like. Speaker 5 Is such a hard time. I'm like, Oh so you think you're better than huh? Speaker 4 Yeah, you would you really rather be yellow? Speaker 5 No, no. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 2 I would say the only like LSU is not yellow, it's purple and gold. Yeah, completely different. But with a yellow jacket, you're yellow. Speaker 1 You know, Not to say the blue Mustang is a pretty good solid. Speaker 5 I think. Speaker 2 It is. Yeah. And timeless. Speaker 1 Yeah. And timeless. Classic. Speaker 4 Yeah. Speaker 1 Would you rather have no elbows or no knees? Now, I need you to think through this before you answer, because see how you're been in your arms right now. Speaker 5 Yeah. You couldn't do that. Speaker 4 In your knees. I mean. Speaker 2 I was all I was going to say. Speaker 4 Your legs and we. Speaker 2 Should say. Speaker 4 Elbows because most. Speaker 2 Yeah, no elbows because now I can, I can still walk the same. Speaker 1 Yeah. Try to eat. Just try to put something in your mouth. Speaker 2 Think. I think Yeah. Yeah. That's tough. That's definitely, that's, that's definitely tough. Speaker 1 As well. Is there something you. Speaker 5 Could use me. Speaker 1 No knees. Speaker 4 That would be mine. Really. Speaker 2 So how do you like when you go to sit down? Speaker 1 I just wonder. Well, you could still do you just. Speaker 5 A wider. Speaker 4 Stance. You don't think. Think I would. Speaker 2 You would definitely have a wider stance. Speaker 5 But we feel like your arms are frozen. Speaker 1 So we're solving some big problems today. We have so many people in the last 10 minutes. Speaker 4 They're dropping off like flies and we're still like. Speaker 1 Okay, two more questions. Would you rather have the power to read minds or the power to teleport? Speaker 2 Teleport Yeah, I would rather, yeah. Travel. Mm. I could travel. Speaker 4 Much more now. Quickly. Speaker 2 So that's one of my, my go tos anyways, now I can travel and it's good to go read minds. I don't want to know what everybody's thinking. Speaker 1 Anyway, that would be a curse. Speaker 4 That would be a curse for us. Speaker 5 Absolutely. Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. We would never stop using that. Speaker 2 Say, could you imagine how long you listen to the same song? Speaker 4 About a year. Speaker 1 People's opinions of you are none of your business. Speaker 4 Yeah, no. Speaker 1 Big believer in that. Speaker 5 So, yeah, we're all. Speaker 1 We're all in agreement. There. There. Okay, so I end every podcast with finish the sentence. One thing I know for sure is. Speaker 2 That we will be successful at friends at high school. Speaker 4 Woo! Speaker 1 Jordan Johnson, thank you very much. Speaker 4 So glad you were here today. This has been a blast. Yeah. Yeah, I had. Speaker 2 Such a good time. Speaker 1 We cannot wait to see. Speaker 5 All the great things that you do. Speaker 4 Yeah, Yeah. Thanks for having me. Speaker 1 You'll have a good day. Speaker 5 Common sense. Speaker 4 No mistakes. Speaker 1 In crows. Unknown And at the and.